I think it became fashionable to hate
me. I get it. I wasn’t cool. Isn’t it
time we stopped hating Phil Collins? For
a guy who topped charts, sold out
stadiums, and played both sides of Live
Aid in one day, Phil Collins has taken
more punches than most pop legends. Over
the years, he became an unlikely
punching bag, mocked by critics,
dismissed by rock purists, and even
insulted by artists half his age. Over
the years, he’s had a few enemies of his
own, and he didn’t hold back. From
awkward snubs by his childhood heroes to
grunge icons who called for his head,
these are the moments where Collins drew
the line, and some of the names may
surprise
you. Let’s dive in. Pink Floyd. I was
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never a big Floyd fan. Phil Collins has
never pretended otherwise. In interviews
stretching across decades, he’s made it
clear that Pink Floyd just didn’t do it
for him, especially in their early
years. I saw them at the marquee with
Arnold Lane,” Collins recalled in a 2014
interview with documentarian John
Edgenton, but they just didn’t do it for
me. He admitted that he was more of an
early Yes fan and respected bands like
Jethro Tull, but never connected to
Floyd’s heavy spaced out sound. Even as
Genesis was being grouped alongside
Floyd in the burgeoning Prague rock
movement of the 1970s, Collins rejected
the comparison. I was in a band that was
always put in the same box as that lot,
but I never felt that we actually were
in the same box, but we probably were.
The tone is classic Collins,
self-deprecating, but pointed. Pink
Floyd were the moody mystics. Collins
was the drummer who wanted a tune you
could hum in the car. While Collins
mostly kept his critiques light, Roger
Waters did not. In a 1992 Musician
magazine interview, Waters unleashed one
of the most brutal takedowns in rock
diplomacy. I seem to always wind up
attacking poor Phil Collins. He’s
symptomatic of an awful lot of um what’s
wrong with the music industry. He might
disagree and so might his fans, but the
feeling I get is that he’s pretending to
be a songwriter or a rock and roller.
It’s an act. That’s why it’s
unsatisfying. For Waters, Collins
represented everything he hated about
1980s pop, slick production, chart
friendly melodies, emotional shallowess.
That might seem ironic considering Pink
Floyd sold out stadiums and released The
Wall, one of the most over-the-top
theatrical productions in rock history.
But for Waters, artistry was about
confronting society’s demons. Not
writing a radio hit like Sudio. At its
core, this wasn’t just a clash of
personalities. It was a clash of musical
ideologies. Pink Floyd believed in
crafting immersive sonic experiences
driven by themes of alienation, war,
madness, and institutional decay. Phil
Collins, especially post Genesis,
favored emotional accessibility. His
songs were about heartbreak, divorce,
regret, and occasionally gorillas
playing drums. Both sold millions of
records. Both had legions of fans, but
one viewed the other as self-important
and daer, while the other dismissed his
counterpart as commercial fluff. In
Colin’s words, “I liked what I heard
from Floyd when I came across it by
accident, but I never really sit down
and listen to them. That line alone says
everything about the dynamic. Floyd was
the band you had to prepare yourself
for. Collins was the guy who showed up
on the radio whether you wanted him or
not. It’s impossible to talk about this
feud without considering the Genesis
Pink Floyd parallel. For years, Peter
Gabriel’s theatrical Genesis was seen as
Floyd’s peer in Prague ambition. When
Gabriel left, Collins took over and led
the band into shorter, poppier
territory. Critics howled. Record sales
soared. Roger Waters, still steeped in
concept albums and political allegory,
probably saw Collins as a sellout. A
musician who turned Prague rock into pop
candy. Collins, meanwhile, didn’t seem
to care much. Waters is a bit of a
grouch, Collins once quipped in a now
infamous fan forum comment. But
Gilmore’s a lovely, lovely guy. A
perfect summary. Collins admired the
music, but didn’t want the moodiness.
Floyd took themselves seriously.
Collins, despite being a perfectionist,
never took himself too seriously. Some
of the tension came from an off-hand
remark Collins made about Floyd being a
bit boring. Though he later clarified, I
may have said that I think their music
was boring at a time when I was into
more active music. I don’t find them
particularly boring now, but I never sit
down and listen to them. That comment,
while relatively tame, was enough to
earn him a few mocking responses from
Floyd fans and possibly some extra
bitterness from Waters. Both Collins and
Floyd found themselves grouped under the
same genre, Prague Rock, a box that
neither seemed entirely comfortable
with. Collins, in particular, pushed
back hard against the label. As Genesis
moved into pop territory, he tried to
break free from the elaborate stage
shows and 12minute suites. We didn’t
want to write fantasy stories anymore,
Collins said of the postgabriel Genesis
years. We wanted to talk about real
things. Meanwhile, Floyd dug deeper into
their mythos, releasing albums like The
Final Cut and The Division Bell, never
wavering from their commitment to music
as message. And yet, their legacies were
constantly intertwined to the annoyance
of both parties. In later years, the
feud faded into the background, not
quite resolved, but no longer active.
Collins even admitted, “I’ve probably
become more of a Floyd fan in later
years than I was at the time. But make
no mistake, this was never a bromance
waiting to blossom. They didn’t
collaborate. They didn’t tour together.
They didn’t trade respect in liner notes
or festival bills.” Paul McCartney, a
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hero worship turned sour.
Rock and roll has its fair share of diva
clashes, but the quiet tension between
Phil Collins and Paul McCartney stands
out. Not because it exploded in the
tabloids, but because it started with
one off-hand joke and never really
healed. Collins, like so many of his
generation, grew up idolizing the
Beatles. As a teenager, he even landed a
blink and you’ll miss it appearance in a
Hard Day’s Night as a screaming fan in
the crowd. Years later, after building
his own legacy with Genesis and a wildly
successful solo career, Collins found
himself sharing royal stages, not as a
fan, but as a peer. By 2002, Collins was
a household name. So, when he ran into
McCartney at Queen Elizabeth II’s Golden
Jubilee celebration, he approached him
with genuine admiration and a first
edition of The Beatles by Hunter Davies,
hoping for a signature. Instead, he got
a comment he’d never forget. Oh,
Heather, our little Phil’s a bit of a
Beatles fan. McCartney reportedly told
his then wife. To Collins, it wasn’t
charming. It was patronizing. The kind
of remark that doesn’t sting because
it’s cruel, but because it’s dismissive.
He later told the Sunday Times, “I
thought you [ __ ] You [ __ ] Never forgot
it.” What bothered Collins most wasn’t
just the joke. It was the attitude
behind it. In later interviews, he
claimed McCartney had a way of making
people feel small, saying, “He has this
thing where he makes you feel like, “I
know this must be hard for you because
I’m a beetle.” Collins didn’t need hero
worship. He just wanted respect. Years
later, after Collins recounted the story
in his memoir, Not Dead Yet, McCartney
reached out. According to Collins, the
message wasn’t hostile, but it also
wasn’t warm. I didn’t get flowers. I got
more of a let’s just move on with our
lives to Collins. That wasn’t enough. He
felt McCartney had missed the point. Or
maybe didn’t care to understand why that
moment stung so deeply. What makes this
feud even more striking is how
differently Collins spoke of George
Harrison. After Harrison accidentally
left him off the credits for All Things
Must Pass, he made it up to Collins with
a prank so absurd it ended in laughter.
Collins respected that. It felt
personal, even if it was at his expense.
With McCartney, there was no laugh, no
shared moment, just silence and a quote
that’s haunted Collins ever since.
McCartney was one of my heroes and I
wish I hadn’t met him. It’s not a feud
built on insults or headlines. It’s a
quiet disappointment that never faded. A
childhood idol who in one off-hand
moment revealed a side Collins never
wanted to see. They’ll never trade diss
tracks or Twitter insults. But in
Colin’s mind, that autograph moment said
it all. And he never really let it go.
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Oasis. They’re just horrible
guys. The feud’s origin goes back to the
early days of Oasis when Noel Gallagher
was still shaping the identity of his
band. With grunge in retreat after Kurt
Cobain’s death, Noel positioned Oasis as
the raw workingclass antidote to what he
called junk food music. That meant
mainstream pop and artists like Phil
Collins. In the 2016 documentary
Supersonic, Noel made his mission
crystal clear. We’re going to get rid of
Phil Collins and Sting, junk food music,
McDonald’s music. We’ve got to get in
the charts and stamp them out. I want
the severed head of Phil Collins in my
fridge by the end of this decade. And if
I haven’t, I’ll be a failure. Even
before Oasis had released definitely
maybe, Nell had already chosen Collins
as a symbol of everything he was
rebelling against. Over the years, Noel
only doubled down. In interviews
throughout the 1990s and 2000s, he
routinely referred to Collins as the
Antichrist and even dragged him into
political commentary. Ahead of the 2005
UK general election, Noel told the
Guardian, “I’ll be voting Labor because
I think it’s morally right.” Another
reason to vote Labor is if the
Conservatives get in, Phil Collins is
threatening to come back and live here.
And let’s face it, none of us want that.
To Noel, Collins represented
overproduced commercial music and
apparently also middle-aged upper class
conservatism.
It didn’t matter whether the political
claims were fair or accurate. They were
brutal and personal. For years, Collins
avoided getting too involved in the back
and forth. But after being called the
Antichrist in interview after interview
and accused of being the reason Oasis
never reached number one, “One with the
jam,” he finally responded. “They’re
just horrible guys,” he said in a TV
interview. They’re rude and not as
talented as they think they are. They
keep having a go at me, which I find
strange. He clarified that he didn’t
hate their music, just their attitudes.
They make good music if you can stomach
their behavior. I like the Beatles, and
what they’re doing is a nod to that. I
liked the music long before I knew what
these guys were doing. But by then, it
was more than a spat. It had become
personal and weirdly iconic. Then came
the moment no one expected. Phil Collins
and Noel Gallagher trapped in the same
Caribbean bar. As Collins recounted in
his autobiography, Not Dead Yet, he was
vacationing with his wife on Mystique, a
private island in the Caribbean, when he
befriended the owners of a tiny local
bar. They joked about Collins doing a
set one night if they brought in a few
musicians. He agreed. But when he showed
up to perform, there they were sitting
in the corner of this tiny bar, Collins
recalled, “Are Null, his wife Johnny
Depp, Kate Moss, and a Labour MP. I
don’t know which one.” Trying to break
the ice, Collins approached Null and
asked if he wanted to join in for a jam.
Gallagher refused. His wife made a
sarcastic comment about Collins’s recent
attempt at guitar music. Collins
admitted, “I retired to the bar,”
feeling not a little embarrassed. Credit
to Kate Moss, though she came over and
apologized for the odd encounter. Then,
as Collins started playing his set, Noel
and his entourage got up and left. If
there were any doubts about how deep the
rift ran, they evaporated on that island
night. The bad blood even reportedly
spilled into the next generation. In a
later interview, Nell claimed that
Collins’s children once mistook Liam
Gallagher for him and confronted him.
“They had a pop at him,” Null said,
saying, “Why are you always having a
furring go at our dad?” When I heard
about it, I thought, “I really hope
someone filmed it.” No reaction. Anyway,
fur Liam and fur Phil Collins and all.
By the 20110s, Noel started to slightly
soften. In an interview with Zayn Low,
he admitted it was a flippant comment
about him being the antichrist. I
probably gave a balanced view of Phil
Collins that day, but what looks good is
the bit about him being the antichrist.
Still, the digs didn’t stop. When asked
about artists he hated, but songs he
liked, he named In the Air Tonight, a
song he admitted to enjoying, but
also in Paradise was Fing S. He did
offer a
backand don’t mind the Gabrielis.
They’ve got some good
tune took over. I wasn’t into that.
Collins later addressed Noel’s political
attack more directly, calling it a
misrepresentation. I don’t care if he
likes my music or not, he said. I do
care if he starts telling people I’m a
wanker because of my politics. It’s an
opinion based on an old misunderstood
quote. By that point, Collins was
nearing retirement. He had wrapped up a
final Genesis tour and publicly stated
he wasn’t planning to tour or release
more music. His focus had shifted toward
writing, family, and his lifelong
fascination with the Battle of the
Alamo, Led Zeppelin, a dream gig turned
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nightmare. In rock history, some clashes
are loud and chaotic, full of drugs,
guitars, and headlines. Others are
quieter, but somehow more bitter,
lingering like a bad note played at the
wrong moment in front of a million
people. The feud between Phil Collins
and Led Zeppelin falls into the latter
category. It was born out of one of the
most high-profile reunions in music
history, a once-ina-lifetime show that
should have been unforgettable for all
the right reasons. Instead, it turned
into a disaster that both sides would
spend decades blaming each other for.
Live Aid wasn’t just another concert. It
was the concert, a global event, a
cause, a spectacle. Organized by Bob
Gelof to raise money for famine relief
in Ethiopia. It brought together the
biggest names in music across two
continents. Phil Collins, riding high as
both a solo star and member of Genesis,
performed at Wembley Stadium in London
before boarding the Concord and flying
to Philadelphia to do it all over again.
This time with Led Zeppelin. But Led
Zeppelin wasn’t Led Zeppelin anymore.
Their legendary drummer John Bonham had
died in 1980. The band broke up soon
after, declaring that they couldn’t
continue without him. For live aid, they
agreed to reunite reluctantly for one
night only. That meant they needed a
drummer, or in this case, two, Phil
Collins and Tony Thompson from Chic.
From the beginning, things were off. In
his memoir, Not Dead Yet, Collins
admitted he thought he’d be playing just
a few songs with Robert Plant and Jimmy
Paige under their own names, not as Led
Zeppelin. He didn’t know the full set
list. He hadn’t rehearsed. His only
preparation was listening to Stairway to
Heaven on
Concord. I arrive and go to the caravans
and Robert says Jimmy Paige is
belligerent. Collins recalled. That
warning wasn’t taken lightly. Once he
met Paige, things soured almost
immediately. When Collins tried to
demonstrate the drum intro to Stairway,
Paige scoffed, “No, it doesn’t go like
that.” It wasn’t exactly a warm welcome.
Despite Colin’s efforts to coordinate
with Thompson and keep things simple,
there was no saving the set. The
performance consisting of rock and roll,
Whole Lot of Love, and Stairway to
Heaven was disjointed, sluggish, and
painfully awkward. Collins knew it in
real time. If I could have walked off
during Stairway, I would have. But
imagine the headlines. Phil Collins
walks out on Led Zeppelin at Live Aid. I
stayed. I mimed. I played air drums just
to get through it. After the show, the
fallout came quickly and publicly. Jimmy
Paige wasted no time throwing Collins
under the bus. We had 2 hours rehearsal,
not even that, Paige told the Times. The
drummer couldn’t get the beginning of
rock and roll. We were in real trouble.
In another interview, he described
Collins as bashing away cluelessly and
grinning during the performance. Even
Robert Plant joined in the passive
aggressive shade. Sitting next to
Collins in a postshow interview with
MTV, he said, “The three of us knew what
we were doing, and everybody else did
their very, very best.” While John Paul
Jones pointed directly at Collins.
Collins, to put it lightly, was furious.
“I got pissed off,” he later admitted.
“Maybe I didn’t know the material as
well as Jimmy wanted, but I wasn’t the
only problem. If you watch the video,
you can see Jimmy dribbling, Robert not
hitting the notes, and me. I’m just
trying to get out of the way. Collins
felt used, underprepared, and blamed,
and he wasn’t about to keep quiet. To
most musicians, playing drums for Led
Zeppelin, even just for one night, would
be a dream. For Collins, it became one
of the worst experiences of his career.
He called it a mistake and a disaster in
nearly every interview since. In fact,
his honesty about how bad it was has
become legendary. It wasn’t amazing to
be there. I have to say they weren’t
very good and I was made to feel a
little uncomfortable by the dribbling
Jimmy Page. Collins told Classic Rock
magazine in 2016. I felt like a spare
part. Ironically, Collins had a deep
admiration for John Bonham, Zeppelin’s
original drummer and considered him a
major influence. He even acknowledged
how impossible it was to fill his shoes.
They should have left it alone. You
can’t replace Bonham with two drummers
and expect it to work. The Zeppelin
performance at Live Aid was so bad that
the band refused to let it be included
on the official Live A DVD release.
Paige, Plant, and Jones made sure it was
left out, as if it never happened. Of
course, the internet never forgets.
Bootlegs and YouTube clips of the set
still circulate, and it’s every bit as
uncomfortable as you’d imagine. Mistimed
cues, missed notes, confused glances
between band members. Collins is clearly
struggling, and so is everyone else. It
was supposed to be a moment of rock
history, a triumphant reunion. Instead,
it became a lesson in what happens when
ego, miscommunication, and lack of
preparation collide on the world’s
biggest stage. In the years since,
Collins has tried to move on, but the
bitterness occasionally resurfaces. In
interviews, he’s painted a picture of a
performance doomed from the start, not
because of malice, but because of poor
planning and misplaced
expectations. Here’s how it is, Collins
said. Robert on his own. Lovely bloke.
Robert with Zeppelin. Something changes.
A dark energy enters the room. It’s like
a nasty strain of alchemy. He didn’t
name Paige directly in that quote, but
he didn’t have to. And while Paige has
expressed some regret about the reunion,
it wasn’t very clever. He told the
Sunday Times, he’s never fully
apologized for throwing Collins under
the bus. If anything, he’s doubled down.
Kurt Cobain, I hate what he stands
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for. In the early 90s, a seismic shift
was rumbling through the music world.
The leather pants and synths of the 80s
were out. Flannel shirts, angst, and
distortion were in.
Grunge had arrived, and at its helm
stood Curt Cobain, a disheveled punk
with a sharp tongue and a deeply
ingrained disdain for anything he deemed
fake or corporatized, including Phil
Collins. By the time Nirvana’s Never
Mind dropped in 1991, Collins was
already a pop institution. With hits
like In the Air Tonight and Another Day
in Paradise, he’d transcended his
Genesis Prague rock roots and become the
poster boy for soft rock balladry. But
to CooBain, Collins didn’t just
represent old music. He embodied
everything that grunge was rebelling
against. In a 1992 interview with Melody
Maker, CooBain let loose in what would
become one of his most infamous tirades
against another musician. Sitting on top
of the world, Nirvana had just
transformed the music landscape with
smells like teen spirit. Yet Cobain was
already disillusioned with the industry
and ready to name names. You know what I
hate about rock? He asked before
unleashing the verbal napalm. I hate
Phil Collins. All of that white male
soul. I hate tie-dyed t-shirts, too. I
wouldn’t wear a tie-dyed t-shirt unless
it was dyed with the urine of Phil
Collins and the blood of Jerry Garcia.
It was a nuclear level disc, one that
managed to slam Collins, the Grateful
Dead, and the commodification of
counterculture all in one breath. For
Cobain, Collins wasn’t just a musician
he didn’t like. He was the symbol of
everything fake, sanitized, and
commercial. Collins was no stranger to
fame. He’d sold out arenas, won Oscars,
and become a household name. But to Gen
X icons like Cobain, he was the epitome
of dad rock, the friendly face of an
industry that had lost its edge. Collins
wore suits. He was cleancut. He’d
starred in Disney soundtracks and made
records that were too safe for CooBain’s
raw sensibilities. The generational
clash was inevitable. Grunge was about
dismantling the myth of the rock star,
not polishing it with reverb heavy
ballads. Where Collins leaned into
production and emotional polish, Cobain
screamed through distortion pedals with
bleeding sincerity, the two might have
both occupied the top of the charts at
different points, but artistically they
couldn’t have been farther apart. To his
credit, Phil Collins didn’t go full
Gallagher brother with his retaliation.
He never dragged CooBain’s name through
the mud in interviews, but his 1993 solo
album, Both Sides, felt like a quiet
rebuttal. The record was introspective
and minimalist, recorded almost entirely
by Collins himself. Stripped of the big
production gloss he was known for, it
seemed like his attempt to prove that he
too could be raw, emotional, and
musically serious. But to many, the
timing made it look like he was trying
to stay relevant in a world Cobain had
already flipped upside down. Even then,
Collins still came off as the uncle of
rock, as some critics dubbed him.
Kindly, maybe even wise, but out of sync
with the times. For Cobain, hating
Collins wasn’t just about the music. It
was about the system Collins seemed to
represent. He once accused him of being
a symbol of Yepy culture, a clean, safe
figure whose success had been built
within the system Nirvana was trying to
destroy. In Cobain’s view, Collins
wasn’t a threat. He was the
establishment. That’s why his criticism
went so far beyond a bad review. It
wasn’t, “I don’t like his songs.” It
was, “I hate what he stands for.” There
was no chance for the two to reconcile.
Cobain died by suicide in 1994 just as
the grunge movement was beginning to be
absorbed and arguably diluted by the
mainstream. Collins continued to make
music though with diminishing critical
reception and eventually moved into
semi-retirement. Years later, Collins
reflected on the grunge era with a mix
of respect and distance. He praised
Nirvana’s influence on music and didn’t
return Cobain’s personal vitriol. But
make no mistake, he knew how the younger
generation saw him. In one interview, he
quipped, “I think it became fashionable
to hate me. I get it. I wasn’t cool.”
Turns out Phil Collins wasn’t just the
guy behind emotional ballads and iconic
drum fills. He was also quietly keeping
receipts. Behind the scenes, he had
opinions, strong ones. and he didn’t
hesitate to call out the stars he
thought were arrogant, overrated, or
just plain rude. But what do you think?
Was Phil right to speak his mind, or did
some of these grudges go too far? Drop
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