The cable news network MSNBC, which has
Rachel Matto and Arie Melbour and others
as personalities and is a favorite of
liberals, is getting a new name. It will
be known as My Source for News, Opinion,
and the World, or MS Now for short. It’s
all something that was ordered by NBC
Universal as part of the corporate
divorce uh between it and some of its
cable companies, which are forming a new
company known as Versant. MSNBC is
building a new news organization with
its own reporters and some of its own
people and NBC News has been a little
bit nervous about having its more
straight news report associated with
MSNBC’s more liberal bent. President
Trump calls MSNBC MSDNC. As a matter of
fact, the change will take place later
this year and the NBC Peacock is being
removed from the logo of MSNBC and all
the other cable networks.
MSNBC is going away later this year,
just as we predicted. Mass layoffs
likely happening. A brand new logo, a
new company, a new parent. And folks,
they’re getting spanked in the ratings
like you can’t believe. But the
mainstream media determined to spit it
as best they can, even as Fox News wins
it again and again. Today, we’ll dive
into just how bad it is for MS Now and
CNN. Maybe it should be called MS Was.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome
back to another fantastic video of
excellence. Yes, indeed. Here on the pro
channel, happy Monday. It is not a happy
Monday for the folks over at MSNBC.
We’re about to explain why, but it looks
to us like that is a channel that is
about to D I E, not D EI. Joining us
today is Kevin Apollo, Marvin Montinro,
and LW Ghost. Gentlemen, welcome back to
you all.
Thanks for having us here.
Crazy.
Been a crazy busy day. I was in the
middle of being at the gym and then all
of a sudden the MSNBC’s on fire and had
to
That’s right, folks.
I had to literally run home because I
walked to the gym.
He He got straight off the treadmill and
just kept running. All right, let’s dive
in right now. Versant. What the heck is
Versant? Well, we’re going to explain to
rename MSNBC and drop the famed Peacock
logos in Comcast Separation. This is by
Alex Sherman over on CNNBC,
which is still part of NBC, but not
MSNBC. Now, Versant is the company that
is in in charge of holding all of these
spunoff assets that uh Comcast and NBC,
they don’t want they don’t want to be
associated more with this stuff. So,
they’ve spun it off. There’s this new
company that controls it called Versant.
MSNBC is one of those and uh here we
have in the key points MSNBC will change
its name later this year to MS now. Now
the MS originally stood for Microsoft
right because this was a joint v venture
back in the late ’90s between Microsoft
and NBC. Now the MS is going to stand
for my source news opinion world. What’s
so funny about this is they get to keep
MSN.
Microsoft’s going to love that a but uh
NBC said screw you. We don’t want
anything to do with you on NBC. You’re
going to have to get your own uh
newsroom. And down here on the third
point for key points, it says MSNBC has
been undergoing aggressive hiring for
about 100 new positions to stand up its
own newsroom independent from NBC. Now,
why would that be? Well, because
MSNBC essentially freeloaded off of NBC
and got to have their newsroom as as
their own. That’s gone now. And so when
we say that layoffs are coming, what I
mean by that is the reason layoffs are
going to be there is because MSNBC Lou
cannot afford to hire 100 people,
especially if it has to be its own
financially successful entity as opposed
to sponging off of the rest of Comcast.
So if they’re hiring 100 people, they
have to cut to the marrow everywhere
else. Lou, do you see any other way?
Well, that’s true, but it’s also
because, for example, in foreign cities
where NBC NBC’s had a bureau with staff,
uh, if they can’t use that anymore, what
do they do?
What do they do?
What do they do?
So, they can’t afford to set up their
own. It’s just insanely expensive after
all this time. So, it’s going to be real
interesting. I I want to see the pitch
where the new my source news opinion
world goes to the existing employees at
NB NBC and says ah don’t you want to
jump ship to the new thing and and they
look at him like um no and I don’t want
to shove this needle in my eye either.
Why do you ask?
I I think I think the plan here is to
let this thing go down. If we look at
Variety from Todd Spangler, MSNBC
rebrand to MS Now draws derision
confusion. Uh they mock in this article
the logo folks. On the left is the logo
they’re not allowed to use anymore. They
can’t have NBC in their name. And the
reason because NBC doesn’t want to be
affiliated with them. They don’t want to
have any association with them. They’re
embarrassed of them. And this logo on
the right, Lou, is just I mean, listen,
that looks like you threw that into AI
and it took 30 seconds to give you some
goofy looking little flag. I just wonder
way deep in the contracts that started
it all way back when if they had to go
on hands and knees to Bill Gates and
say, “Can we do this?”
Because the MS was Microsoft once upon a
time. So, I don’t know.
My understanding is that Microsoft
completely divested from this back in
2005. So, Microsoft doesn’t want to have
anything to do here. Uh, let me read
this real quick from uh Variety. This is
the quote we have from the cable
network. And as we read this, I just
want to folks, let me tell you how this
has gone in the past because there’s
going to be some people who say, “Well,
bro, this is clickbait. MSNBC is not
over. It’s they’re just changing the
name, bro. They’re just Well, come on
now. They’re changing ownership. They’re
changing the uh the name. They’re
changing the brand. Mass layoffs we
anticipate to be on the way. I This is
not even going to be the same channel in
about 6 months.” Let me go over how this
has went in the past. Outdoor Life
Network. I don’t know if you all
remember that. Uh was an outdoor cable
channel. It’s now NBCSN.
You ever heard of that? No.
SN. What is the SN stand?
Who even knows? I bet sports. I bet I
bet sports network is what I bet. Uh
there was a channel called Sleuth. There
was a channel called Sleuth years ago.
They changed it in 2011 to Clue. C L O.
It is as well known as you can imagine.
And who can forget TechTV became G4
TechTV and it’s now G4 uh which has been
folded in I believe uh they stopped
about 2021 2022 right how’d that go for
them this is what happens when channels
go to die here’s the quote then we’ll
get Marvin in later this year MSNBC will
take on a new name my source news
opinion world uh they should have just
named it the Rachel Matau channel really
honestly they should have done that and
they just played uh you know reruns of
Rachel Matto out. This name further
underscores our mission to serve as your
destination for breaking news and
thoughtful analysis and remain the home
for the perspectives that you’ve relied
on for nearly 30 years. Marvin, uh I
don’t think given the ratings and given
the fact that NBC wants to be separated
from them that this is a good way to go
and I don’t think they plan to go this
way for much longer. I think this is
saving face
for maybe 6 months, maybe a year and
then goodbye to the channel. I don’t
know if it becomes like a u I don’t know
if it becomes like MTV where music is
still in the name but music is not what
happens. Maybe that’s what’ll be with
the news. What do you think?
This is a and and you’re seeing it with
with NBC, you’re seeing it with Warner
Brothers. This is a ploy to dump the the
the failing um you know legacy cable
divisions of these large companies
without tanking the main company’s
stock. So Versent has been spin spun off
has been spinning off into its own
publicly traded entity.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you
telling me that the pronunciation is
Versent?
That’s how I pronounced it.
I think Versant sounds fancy because
it’s a con and therefore it’s
conversant.
Yeah. So you spin off to Von and and
then you let it go for like two years
and then all of a sudden you could be
like guess what? we’ve sold off the
assets to MS now or whatever it is or
we’re clos or we sold TNT over at Warner
Brothers or you know whatever it’s going
to be and then the the Versam uh stock
will will drop and the NBC stock will
not drop that is it that they they are
trying to get rid cut the dead weight
out without tanking the stock and
ticking off all the shareholders but as
some if I could steal a line from you
know another one of our panelists here
it gets worse Because as we covered in
our article on that park place, not only
are they taking their name out of MSNBC,
they’re also kicking them out of their
house. MSNBC is being ejected from
Rockefeller Center and has to go find
its own place to live.
Well, they’re going to listen, they’re
going to do what we do, except, you
know, we’re not a full-blown cable news
network. We I think we’re doing pretty
darn well here on the new media, but
they’re going to have people sit at home
in their jammies. Lou’s in his jammies.
I know you are, Lou. Uh, and and by the
way, folks, you know that Kevin’s
wearing a shirt, but below that, we
can’t prove anything. Uh,
I don’t wear jammies, for the record.
Well, Rachel, speculate how you like as
to what I’m actually sitting here in or
not in.
Well, Rachel Matto is going to be in her
jammies, and that’s how this is going to
work. They’re going to just they’re
going to bring people in remotely. Uh,
they’ve got to cut every cost they can.
I’ll show you why. Kevin, take a look at
this. Out of AD Week, and AD Week is
spinning this as hard as they can. We
love Ad Week, but come on. Come on. I’m
going to show you the headline and I’ll
show you what it really says. Week of
August 4th, cable news ratings, MSNBC
has growth. Fox News still number one.
That’s what they’re saying. Uh, MSNBC
has across the board growth. This is the
latest we have. I want to I want to
scroll down here and show you. All
right, so compared to last year. Okay,
let me get here. Where’s it at? Where’s
it at? Okay, here’s what we want. Um,
we’re comparing to last year. Now,
there’s going to be a drop from last
year because last year the the
presidential election was in high gear
and this is about the time that we had
all the fallout. People were debating
whether or not Biden was going to drop
out after that hor horrific debate.
Okay, so let’s see how the how the
channels are comparing during prime time
compared to this exact time last year.
Fox News was down 4%. Down 28% in the
demo in the demo matters. What about
MSNBC? MSNBC is down 41%
in total viewers compared to Fox 4%.
Down 41% and down 54% in the demo. And
yet the headline the headline claims
that MSNBC has growth because compared
to last week, they went up by like 2%. I
mean, come on, Kevin. Come on.
It could always be worse. They could be
CNN.
Well, that’s that’s true. We’re going to
go to CNN in just a minute. And Kevin,
what say you about this ridiculous
headline and how they’re trying to spin
this? They’re down by half in one year.
They can’t go on.
Come on. This is the black knight going,
“This is only a flesh wound.” The uh
Exactly.
The I get it. You You You
didn’t find your new low yet, but you’re
still down really low.
Hey, Kevin. Hey, Kevin. We’re not dead
yet.
Exactly. Exactly.
MSNBC isn’t dead. They’re just pining
for the Fords.
But the big thing is, remember ad week
theoretically
is for advertisers.
So them saying, well, honestly, they
they really do have a little something
is them saying, “Please buy an ad over
there, even if you don’t care if you
reach 10 people.”
Well, I guess it’s going to be it’s
going to be an ad fire sale at this
point. The if you don’t want anybody to
see it, the I just Oof. Oof.
Hey, Kevin. Kevin, here’s the thing.
Versant Versant cannot pay Ala Mad. She
they can MSNBC under Comcast can only
afford her one day a week. So they can’t
afford her. I don’t think they can
afford Jins Saki and Jen Saki isn’t
doing it’s Jen Saki in the ratings.
Circle back to that. Kevin, they’re
going to have to go get people who
nobody knows and say, “Have at it.
You’ve got to be better than who we’ve
got right now.”
This is and cheaper. This is going to be
the community theater reenactment of
Gone with the Wind at this point. The
It’s Listen, we all saw this coming
apparently except for MSNBC. The We’ve
been watching the ratings um kind of
live on the edge of the cliff, fall,
find the brand new cliff to kind of hold
on to and then fall off of that. The It
just keeps going lower and lower and
lower. It’s the widely coyote noise
without him actually hitting the bottom
yet. the the this this was again this
was coming like a freight train. I so
there’s no shock here especially when we
announced that Versold was taking over.
Uh NBC this is a toxic brand and NBC
knows it. They want to try to get back
into the news business versus what
happened here. And listen, it’s not like
MSNBC ever really truly had a good
reputation. It’s always been the
laughingstock of you know of the of the
big three news brands. the So, we’re
just we’re we’re kind of getting to the
actual uh comple of the fatal comple.
That’s right. And the fate is just as
bad. If we look over on CNN, uh CNN
Brian Stelter is covering this. What you
all need to know out there is that
Warner Brothers Discovery, they did the
same thing to CNN. CNN is is kicked out.
Uh we don’t know what’s going to happen
exactly with CNN yet, except we
anticipate, just like we’ve been telling
you now for months, folks, if you’ve
been watching this channel, you knew
this was coming. Uh we we predict that
CNN will also undergo massive
transformation and uh major layoffs.
Sorry uh that all the all the viewer
from airports across the country will be
gone. All the viewer MSNBC is getting a
new name as part of its split from NBC
News. This is by Brian Stelter. As we
said, as the cable news channel MSNBC
splits up with NBC News, it also is
dropping the NBC from its name. Later
this year, the channel will become MS
Now, which stands for my source for news
opinion in the world. Quote, well, we’re
not going to read that. We’ve heard it
before, but MSNBC is going through a
much bigger change this year as
corporate parent comcast spins off most
of its cable channels into a new company
called Versant. Now, Brian Stelter says
that and just keeps on going as if
that’s not a big deal. Yes, they are
spinning
most of their cable channels. What are
the channels they’re they’re spinning
off, folks? What is this most they’re
speaking of? The failing ones.
Yes. Yes, they are kicking out their
failing CA channels and keeping the ones
that work.
And what is what is the pitch to
potential stockholders? Would you like
to get all the crap in one easy place?
Buy our stock.
Right. Exactly.
I mean, you now you don’t have to lose
in six places at once. You can lose in
one place and write it off against your
winners.
And I swear, Lou, they picked this guy.
They picked the CEO CEO just for his
name. Like there was no interview
process,
nothing. It’s probably the only one who
he’s the only guy who’s got a chance.
Lazarus, come on in. Versant CEO Mark
Lazarus, also known as the executioner,
said Monday that Comcast NBC Universal,
which is keeping the NBC broadcast
network and other assets, has decided to
keep the iconic peacock symbol for its
own purposes. So, get this straight,
ladies and gentlemen. The guy who runs
uh the the the channels that actually
NBC is proud of, they get to keep their
name. You got to love it. You got to
love it. Oh me. Oh me. So Golf Channel
and CNBC, they to keep the name. MSNBC
does not. NBC doesn’t want to be
associated with them. Uh gentlemen,
final thoughts on this. Marvin, let me
go to you and just ask, uh, how long do
they got? How long until everything
changes? Everybody is is new and uh we
give up on this chase for trying to be
in the same club as Fox News. I I think
we’ve got at least five years until they
close up shop entirely because you have
to give it some time so that it’s not
you know it it’s painfully obvious what
the company split is and why it exists
but you can’t rub people’s face in that
because then that that puts your
deception you know on on uh on blast. So
I think they’re going to deal with it
for at least 5 years and that’s going to
be that. In the meantime though, by the
time that five years rolls around, it’s
gonna look nothing like the NBC, MSNBC
that we know now. I don’t think you hold
on to Joe Scarboro for that long. Um,
you know, I don’t I don’t think you hold
on to Rachel Mano. I don’t think they
can pay her. Um, I don’t even run out.
That’s when they’re gone.
I don’t even think you’re going to be
able to hold on to that lady who the
only thing she does is every 10 minutes
she’s like, I worked for George W. Bush.
Yeah. They’re going to become the VH1
of, you know, that that’s where they’re
headed. VH1. They’re going to have
prepackaged stuff. Extremely cheap to
make. I don’t know, maybe maybe in 5
years it’ll be AI reading the news on MS
now and it’ll just be a ticker down at
the bottom for a fake fake AI person.
Opportunity, however, I must say to draw
the few people who still like them. They
should have made it stand for my sore
nuggets because Co Bear.
That is That is a good stretch to get
there. But I like it. I like it. Kevin,
you get the final word. Mr. Belmar. What
the heck is Belmar?
Well, so Belmar was a was a gym injury,
didn’t he? That defied the uh that
defied the beer bug rules.
Oh, so this is not a Bill Maher
reference. This is a reference to Oh.
Oh. And Kevin, before you give your
final word, I just want to say too,
you’re making us all very jealous of
you. I have tried to set up a a studio
system outside for when it’s beautiful
so that I can enjoy, but every time I do
it, like the wind blows and I get the
sound in the mic and I don’t know how
you have managed what you’re doing, but
I am entirely jealous of you.
He obviously sabotaged all his neighbors
lawnmowers. Yes, he he stares down the
elements until they decide not to
interfere. A wood a woodpecker sits on
his uh on his bananister and he says,
“Not today, bird. Not today.”
Although my dog is in the background
trying his best to become the star of
the show. The um listen, this was a long
time coming and you can tell how much
faith they have in the brand by its
awful name. Everybody remember Air
America? No, you don’t. And there’s a
reason for that. This is also you’re no
one’s going to be talking about this
outside of how awful this name is. I
think Marv is very generous. I don’t
give them five years. This is happening
because we got to cut the dead weight.
These networks do not have the money. Um
people, you know, between the between
the cutting the cord, the streaming
wars. Um these uh advertisers need to
pick and they need to pick uh or rather
say that you know to to to paraphrase
from uh last crusade they need to choose
and they need to choose wisely.
There you go. They already drank from
the cup. Kevin and they chose poorly. So
they chose the end of it.
All right. Well folks get over and
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Great show.
Marvin Montinro is over at That Park
Place as well as Tony Town TV and Tony
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channel. Gentlemen, thank you to you all
for your expert level analyses. And with
that folks, as they all wave goodbye,
keep learning, keep growing, and as
always, keep having fun.
No. Hey, Flor, what you doing? Thinking
about Rome.
No, I wasn’t. But thanks. Now I lost the
game.
Dang it. Now I lost the game.
Well, now now you’re a double loser.
Hey guys.
You know what would help you in your
grief?
Forgetting those things and filling your
mind with articles from that
parkplace.com
and using that website as a launching
pad to get you lost in thought with all
of the team from there.
Yeah, that’s actually a good idea.
Yeah. Oh, well, Flora, would you look
down here?
I hate you.
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