THOMAS IS SPEAKING OUT ON

HER FIRST TV INTERVIEW NOW

SAYING SHE DIDN’T TRANSITION

GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE

BUT NOW MANY ON THE LEFT ARE

TRYING TO CANCEL ANYONE THAT

DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY HEAP

PRAISE ON LEAH THOMAS.

NOW, EVEN TENNIS LEGEND —

AND I MEAN LEGEND, MARTINA

NAVRATILOVA IS FACING

BLOWBACK AFTER THE 18-TIME

GRAND SLAM WINNER — AN

AMAZING PLAYER — TOLD THE

NEW YORKTIMES F I FACED THE

MALE EQUIVALENT OF LEAH IN

TENNIS, THAT’S BIOLOGY.

I WOULD HAVE HAD NO HOT AND

I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIVID.

HERE IS CAITLYN JENNER ALONG

WITH FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR

TAMMY BRUCE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.

I SAW YOUR COMMENTS,

CAITLYN.

YOU SAID — YOU WERE RIGHT,

— SHE FOLLOWED THE RULES AS

THEY WERE WRITTEN.

PROBLEM IS THE RULES AREN’T

FAIR, WHICH YOU ACKNOWLEDGED

ON THIS PROGRAM.

THAT’S THE PROBLEM.

> IT CERTAINLY IS, THIS IS

NOT LEAH THOMAS’ FAULT.

IT’S REALLY THE WOKE WORLD

THAT’S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

IT GAVE LEAH THOMAS THE

ABILITY TO TAKE AWAY MEDALS

FROM OTHER ATHLETES.

SHE PLAYED BY THE RULES BUT

MY BEEF HAS BEEN WITH THE

NCAA.

THE NCAA SHOULD BE OUT TO

PROTECT WOMEN’S SPORTS.

YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONING — I

REALLY FEEL LIKE IT COMES

WITH RESPONSIBILITY AND

INTEGRITY.

AND I THINK IN THE “GOOD

MORNING AMERICA” SHOW THAT

SHE DID, I THINK THERE WAS A

LACK OF THAT.

IT WAS ALL ABOUT HER AND HER

HAPPINESS WHERE WHEN SHE WAS

A MALE SWIMMER A FEW YEARS

AGO, SHE WASN’T HAPPY AT

ALL.

NOW, SHE’S ALL OF A SUDDEN

HAPPY.

I AMEND TO HAPPINESS.

I’M GLAD SHE’S HAPPY, BUT

SHE DID IT AT THE INTENSE OF

THE OTHER FEMALE ATH– AT

THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER

FEMALE ATHLETES.

INDIVIDUAL HAPPINESS HERE IN

LEAH’S CASE CANNOT TAKE

PRIORITY OVER THE UNDENIABLE

BIOLOGICAL FACT THAT SHE’S

TRANS.

AND SHE’S GOT A MASSIVE

PHYSICAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE

OTHER ATHLETES.

I MEAN, YOU SEE HER ON THE

BLOCKS, YOU SEE THE GIRLS

STANDING NEXT TO HER, SHE’S

LOOKING UP TO HER — SHE’S

VERY TALL.

THE GIRL IS GOING, I CAN’T

BEAT THAT.

I’M GOING FOR SECOND PLACE.

IT SHOULDN’T BE THAT WAY.

THE NCAA HAS TO PROTECT

WOMEN’S SPORTS.

>> NOW THEY WANT TO TAKE IT

TO THE OLYMPICS, TAMMY.

WHAT’S YOUR THOUGHTS THAT?

>> CLEARLY THE RULES DO HAVE

TO CHANGE.

CAITLYN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE RULES AREN’T WRITTEN

WITH THIS KIND OF SITUATION

IN MIND.

IT’S ABOUT THE WOKE SOCIETY

BUT WHENEVER THE RULES THAT

WE ALL LIVE UNDER SEEM TO BE

REALLY ABSURDLY RIDICULOUS T

DOES COME DOWN TO CHARACTER.

IT COMES DOWN TO THE NATURE

OF WHO WE ARE, ABOUT WHETHER

OR NOT WE’RE GOING TO TAKE

ADVANTAGE OF RULES THAT WERE

WRITTEN AND SET FOR

SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

WITHOUT CERTAIN

EXPECTATIONS.

AND THIS IS WHEN IT COMES

DOWN TO WHAT WE’VE BEEN

SEEING WITH LIA THOMAS.

I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR

QUITE SOMETIME.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

TRANSGENDERRISM AT THIS

POINT.

IT IS ABOUT CHARACTER.

AND IT’S ABOUT SELFISHNESS.

IT’S ABOUT SELF-INDULGENCE.

IT’S ABOUT NARCISSISM.

CAITLYN WASN’T KIDDING WHEN

SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT

HAPPINESS.

LIA NOTED THAT WHEN SHE

COMPETED AGAINST MEN THAT

SHE WAS MISERABLE AND WHEN

SHE COMPETES AGAINST WOMEN,

SHE’S HAPPIER.

WELL, SHE’S WINNING MORE!

SHE DID NOT WIN LIKE THIS

AGAINST MEN.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE

OLYMPICS, SEAN, THERE WOULD

BE NO REAL CHANCE TO EVEN

COMPETE AT ALL LET ALONE BE

ASSIGNED ONTO THE OLYMPIC

SWIMMING TEAM.

SO THIS IS A REMARKABLE

EXAMINATION ABOUT

SELF-INDULGENCE AND

MALIGNANT NARCISSISM WHEN IT

COMES TO WHAT YOU’RE WILLING

TO DO TO OTHERS IN ORDER TO

GET TO WHAT YOU WANT WHEN

IT’S INHERENTLY AND

COMPLETELY UNFAIR.

THIS IS WHAT THIS IS.

THE TRANSGENDER PEOPLE OUT

THERE — CAITLYN VERY GOOD

EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO

TRANSITIONED WHO’S GOT

CHARACTER — THIS IS ABOUT

INDIVIDUAL ATTITUDE.

THIS IS ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS

PEOPLE.

NOT ABOUT THE TRANSGENDER

PEOPLE AT ALL.

>> THAT’S A GOOD POINT, YOU

KNOW, CAITLYN, WE TALKED

ABOUT THIS.

YOU DRIVE THE BALL

200 YARDS.

I’M NEVER PLAYING GOLF

AGAINST YOU.

>> BRING CASH!

A LOT OF IT!

>> BUT THE POINT IS YOU

WOULDN’T PLAY A SENIOR EVENT

BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU HAVE

THAT ADVANTAGE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

>> YEAH.

NO.

I DEFINITELY DO.

I’VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WHOLE

PROCESS.

IN FACT, I’M COMPLETELY

TRANSITIONED.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE CASE

IS IN LIA’S CASE BUT I’VE

BEEN ON HORMONES FOR A VERY

LONG TIME AND COULD HIT THE

BALL A LONG WAY.

THAT’S NOT A PROBLEM.

HERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

WHAT IF THE NBA ADOPTED

RULES OF THE NCAA?

MICHAEL JORDAN AT HIS PRIME

ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDES I’M

TRANS.

ONE YEAR ON HORMONE

REPLACEMENT THERAPY AND HE

COULD PLAY IN THE WNBA.

HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD

WORK OUT?

>> Sean: I GOT TO ROLL BUT

I THINK — I THINK IF I DO

PLAY, I’LL BRING